Hope Talks

What makes a great leader … and what causes even good ones to stumble?
Dr. Eric Scalise, president of Hope for the Heart, joins us again on Hope Talks. Drawing on decades of leadership experience across ministry, academia, and organizational life, Dr. Scalise shares key insights into the heart of healthy and unhealthy leadership. Together, we explore three common challenges every leader faces: insecurity, isolation, and lack of accountability.
Dr. Scalise shares that the key to overcoming these challenges is finding your identity in Christ and surrounding yourself with truth-tellers—people who will both encourage and confront you in love.
Drawing from Matthew 23 and the “seven woes” of Jesus, we also uncover some biblical principles for leading with humility and authenticity. Whether you lead a team, a family, or just want to help others grow, this episode will help you lead from a place of security and grace.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more :
(01:51) Leadership Insights From Experienced Practitioner 
(17:23) The Role of Priests and Prophets 
(20:37) Accountability Partners and Insecurity 
(27:36) Constant Communication With the Lord 
(34:22) Leadership Qualities of George Washington 
(51:50) Importance of Accountability in Leadership 
(55:45) Appreciation for Leadership Conversation
Hope for the Heart resources
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
1 Kings 4:5 - “Azariah the son of Nathan was over the officers; Zabud the son of Nathan was priest and the king’s friend.”
Matthew 23:23–28 – “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the Law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others. You blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel! “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence. You blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of it may also become clean.  “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. So you too, outwardly appear righteous to people, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
John 13:3-5 – “Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he had come from God and was going back to God, rose from supper. He laid aside his outer garments and, taking a towel, tied it around his waist. Then he poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples’ feet and to wipe them with the towel that was wrapped around him.”
 
 

In this episode, Dr. Michael Guillen – former Harvard physics instructor and Emmy award–winning ABC News science editor – shares his remarkable journey from atheism to faith in Christ. 
Drawing from his book Believing Is Seeing, Dr. Guillen shares his hope story of walking through infertility with his wife, encountering God in the midst of exhaustion, and being led to adoption. We also talk about his shift from being a “scientific monk” to a passionate follower of Jesus and explore ten powerful ways science affirms the truths of Scripture. 
This conversation is both deeply personal and intellectually compelling—one you won’t want to miss.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more 
(04:41) Trusting God 
(08:14) Supernatural Encounter That Changed Everything 
(12:00) Believing in Trust and Surrender 
(22:20) The Transformation of St. Paul 
(26:06) Transformation From Atheist to Christian 
(39:23) Transformative Personal Journey to Christianity 
(43:46) Discovery of the Truman Show Bubble 
(50:57) Christianity and Science in Modern Age 
(01:01:56) Believing Is Seeing Book and Movie 
(01:10:04) Science and Christianity in Harmony
Dr. Michael Guillen Resources 
 
Learn more about Dr. Guillen – https://michaelguillen.com/ 
Subscribe to Dr. Guillen’s Substack, More Thank Meets Than IQ – https://www.morethanmeetstheiq.com/ 
 
Get his book, Believing Is Seeing: A Physicist Explains How Science Shattered His Atheism and Revealed the Necessity of Faith – https://tinyurl.com/bdcwf2ya 
 
Listen to Dr. Guillen’s podcast, Science + God w/Dr. G – https://michaelguillen.com/podcast/ 
 
Hope for the Heart resources
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance on 100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON

In this episode, we sit down with Justin Earley — business lawyer, speaker, podcaster, and author of numerous books on habits and spiritual disciplines. 
Justin shares his journey of walking through a season of anxiety and burnout and how God used it to reshape his view of life and faith. We dive into his new book, The Body Teaches the Soul: Ten Essential Habits to Form a Healthy and Holy Life, exploring common misconceptions about the body and spirit, biblical truths about embodiment, and practical habits that nurture physical, mental, and spiritual health. 
This conversation is full of both deep theological insights and simple, everyday practices that can help you live a more grounded and grace-filled life.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more :
(00:00) Body and Spirit Interactions 
(07:22) Disconnect in American Christian Habits 
(10:51) Importance of the Body Reflections 
(22:29) Healing and Redemption of Bodies 
(27:24) Restoring Mental Health and Spiritual Rhythms
(33:42) The Power of Kneeling Prayer 
(37:23) The Power of Worship and Movement 
(42:05) Family Rhythms and Habits With Kids
 
Justin Earley Resources 
 
Learn more about Justin Earley – https://www.justinwhitmelearley.com/
 
Get his latest book, The Body Teaches the Soul – https://tinyurl.com/32ywu7xc 
Hope for the Heart resources :
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 

The world tells us to fight aging, hide it, or fear it … but God’s Word offers a better way. In this episode, Haley and Dustin talk about aging well: what the Bible says about growing older, the blessings and challenges of aging, and the markers of true maturity. 
They also share some practical questions to think through as you consider your next season of life, and discuss the truth of Isaiah 46:4, “I will be your God throughout your lifetime—until your hair is white with age. I made you, and I will care for you. I will carry you along and save you.”
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more 
(03:57) Navigating Aging Through Expectations and Scripture (90 Seconds)
(17:56) God's View on Aging (90 Seconds)
(25:23) Perspective Shift Through Age and Faith (89 Seconds)
(30:17) Trusting God With Life's Journey (84 Seconds)
(37:21) Remembering Grandma Loretta (70 Seconds)
(49:02) Aging Well Tips and Scriptures
 
Hope for the Heart resources
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
 
Isaiah 46:4, “I will be your God throughout your lifetime—until your hair is white with age. I made you, and I will care for you. I will carry you along and save you.”
Psalm 39:4-5 --“LORD, remind me how brief my time on earth will be. Remind me that my days are numbered—how fleeting my life is. You have made my life no longer than the width of my hand. My entire lifetime is just a moment to you; at best, each of us is but a breath.”
 
Proverbs 16:31 -- “Gray hair is a crown of splendor; it is attained in the way of righteousness.”
Proverbs 20:29 -- “The glory of the young is their strength; the gray hair of experience is the splendor of the old.”

In this episode, Haley and Dustin are joined by Shayne and Sheila Pitcock, a husband-and-wife Christian life coaching team and founders of Journey 2 Unity, a coaching practice specializing in individual and marital growth. Their story is one of pain, perseverance, and ultimately, God’s healing restoration.
Sheila shares how she came to know the Lord after growing up in a rules-based, legalistic environment. Shayne tells how he found hope in Christ after years of loneliness and the heavy burden of shame he carried from childhood. Both walked into marriage with deep wounds from their past, and those struggles led to conflict, pain, and three separations. And yet, God was not finished. 
Through surrender, healing, and holding fast to God’s promises, the Pitcocks found healing and restoration both personally and in their marriage. Today, they help other couples discover that no marriage is too far gone for God to restore.
If you or someone you know is struggling in their marriage, this conversation serves as an encouraging reminder of God’s power to redeem.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more 
(02:37) Discovering Hope in Christ
(15:06) Divine Revelation at the Bar 
(19:33) Impact of Past Trauma on Marriage 
(23:14) Navigating Life Change in Community 
(31:23) Healing and Reconciliation in Marriage
(37:07) Shifting Perspective Through Prayer 
(41:05) Understanding Boundaries in Relationships
(48:47) The Power of Forgiveness 
(52:44) Coaching From a Christian Perspective 
(59:46) Customized Approach in Relationship Counseling
 
Connect with Shayne & Sheila Pitcock
 
Learn more about Shayne & Sheila and their coaching: https://www.journey2unity.com 
 
Hope for the Heart resources :
Learn more and sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/ 
 
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
 
Matthew 3:17: And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

In this episode, Haley and Dustin sit down with Pastor Ryan Walling of Bayshore Baptist Church in La Porte, Texas. Ryan shares how he came to know the Lord as a child and sensed God’s call into ministry, but much of our conversation centers around a deeply personal journey—walking through infertility, adoption, and parenting.
Ryan and his wife, Jessica, wrestled with years of infertility before deciding to adopt—not just one child, but four siblings from Ethiopia. Shortly after finalizing the adoption, Jessica became pregnant. And then pregnant again. In just 15 months, the Wallings went from zero children to six!
Ryan reflects on the joys and challenges of parenting, the whirlwind of raising six kids, and God’s faithfulness along the way.
Whether you’ve walked through infertility, considered adoption, or just need encouragement about God’s faithfulness, this conversation is a beautiful reminder that God adopts us into His family and delights in us with fatherly joy.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more : 
(03:48) - Faith Journey and Ministry Calling
(11:09) - Journey to Ministry and Adoption
(16:14) - Miraculous Journey to Family Expansion
(27:44) - Challenges and Joys of Adoption
(32:46) - Journey of Family Expansion and Faith
(38:20) - Trust in God's Sovereignty and Faithfulness
(49:25) - Power of Faith and Gratitude
 
 
 
 
Learn more about Ryan Walling, His Family & Ministry
 
Watch messages and learn about Bayshore Baptist Church – https://www.bayshorebaptist.church/ 
 
Watch Eyasu’s story, A remarkable journey of a young man's path from an Ethiopian orphanage to Texas A&M glory with ABC13 – https://abc13.com/post/esyau-walling-tells-abc13-upbringing-ethiopian-orphanage-adoption-how-helped-shaped-path/16332666/ 
 
Hope for the Heart resources
Learn more and sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/ 
 
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
 
Ephesians 1:4-5 (NLT): “Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes. God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.”
Romans 8:28 – “And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.”

“Do not worry” (Matthew 6:25).
Worry is so familiar that we often treat it as inevitable – yet Jesus gives us a direct command not to. His words aren’t a cold prohibition but a gracious invitation to trust the Father’s love and care for us.
In this episode, Haley and Dustin dive into Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 6 to unpack the difference between worry and healthy concern. Along the way, they share biblical insights for finding peace in anxious times and introduce four types of “worry-ers” to help you recognize patterns in your own life.
Whatever burdens you’re carrying today, may this conversation help you find peace and strengthen your trust in the Lord.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more 
(00:00) Navigating Worry
(05:51) Overcoming Worry With Faith
(13:20) Navigating Worry Through God's Care
(26:09) Finding Hope in Worst-Case Scenarios
(39:06) Embracing Healthy Concern and Trusting God
(48:49) Embracing God's Faithfulness Over Worry
(54:09) Trusting in God Through Prayer
 
Hope for the Heart resources.
Learn more and sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/ 
 
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
 
Matthew 6:25-34 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Can anyone of you by worrying add a single hour to your life? 28“And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
 
 

In this special extended episode, Haley and Dustin sit down with former Secret Service Agent Darin Kinder, who was just 100 yards away when the planes struck the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001.
In this powerful conversation, Darin walks us through that tragic day — what he saw, what he felt, and how God sustained him through the chaos. Along the way, we unpack how his experience sheds light on key biblical principles for our lives today.
We discuss the emotional and spiritual aftermath of 9/11 and how the Lord led him to share his story and start Fierce Faith Ministries after serving in the Secret Service for over 20 years.
Darin also shares about his new book, Bury Me in a Dirty Suit, its key themes, and what it means to live with “valiant purpose.” Darin’s testimony of courage and resilience is a powerful reminder of God’s presence in life’s darkest valleys.
 
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more 
(03:49) - Eternal Hope and Unexpected Opportunities
(12:48) - September 11
(18:45) - Brotherhood and Courage on 9/11
(27:43) - Escape From the World Trade Center
(36:47) - Acts of Kindness in Chaos
(44:48) - Unanswered Prayers, Obedience, and Men's Ministry
(47:12) - Bury Me in a Dirty Suit
(58:45) - Valiant Purpose and Faith Journey
(01:09:28) - Living by Faith and Purpose
(01:13:37) - Stepping Into the Unknown
(01:23:06) - Stepping Into Valiant Purpose
 
Darin Kinder resources
 
Get Darin’s book, Bury Me in a Dirty Suit: Discovering Man's Valiant Purpose in the Aftermath of 9/11 — tinyurl.com/22meaubk 
 
Learn more about Darin Kinder and Fierce Faith Ministries — https://www.fierce-faith.com  
 
Hope for the Heart resources
Learn more and sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/ 
 
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
Proverbs 16:9 – The heart of man plans his way, but the LORD establishes his steps.
John 8:12 – When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
John 10:27 – “My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.”
Ephesians 2:10 – “For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
1 John 4:18 – “There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.”

In this episode, we unpack the messy dynamics of codependency – what it is, how it shows up in all kinds of relationships, and how we can fall into unhealthy relationship patterns without realizing it. We look at codependent relationships from both sides: the person who struggles with being overly needy and dependent, and the one who feels the urge to step in, rescue, or be needed. We talk through some of the signs to watch for and why it’s important to ground your identity and worth in Christ rather than in another person or relationship.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more 
(10:12) - Recognizing Codependency in Relationships
(14:36) - Healthy Dependence and Identity in Relationships
(27:03) - Signs and Characteristics of Codependency
(33:37) - Internal and External Causes of Codependency
(42:35) - Dependence on God in Relationships
(48:52) - Healing and Growth in Relationships
(54:49) - Prayer for Overcoming Codependency
 
Hope for the Heart resources
Learn more and sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/ 
 
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance on 100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
 
Jeremiah 31:3 -- “I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.”
Romans 5:8 – “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
Romans 8:38-39 – “For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
 

In this replay episode, Haley and Dustin sit down with Chrystal Evans Hurst – author, speaker, coach, and encourager – to hear her story of finding hope in every season of life. From navigating single motherhood and uncertain career paths to stepping unexpectedly into writing, speaking, and ministry, Chrystal shares how God has continually stitched together the puzzle pieces of her life.
She discusses the moments when hope became a reality, how to recognize “the next right thing,” and the importance of trusting God rather than striving to control outcomes. With honesty, wisdom, and encouragement, Chrystal reminds us that God is always in the water – inviting us to jump in, trust Him, and discover the hope that never disappoints.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
 
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
 
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
 
Listen in to learn more 
(02:08) Finding Hope in Life's Struggles 
(10:59) Choosing to Wrestle With God 
(21:31) Discovering Hope and God's Guidance 
(30:02) Navigating Stress and Anxiety Through Faith 
(35:44) Overcoming Fear and Finding Purpose
 
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Chrystal Evans Hurst resources
 
Learn more about Chrystal Evans Hurst’s ministry: https://chrystalevanshurst.com/
 
Follow Chrystal on her podcast, Sister Circle: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrystalHurst
 
Hope for the Heart resources.
Learn more and sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/ 
 
Order our newest resource, The Care and Counsel Handbook, providing biblical guidance  100 real-life issues: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/care-and-counsel-handbook
 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart 
 
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
 
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
 
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON 
 
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
 
Exodus 4:1-5 – “Then Moses answered, “What if they do not believe me or listen to my voice? For they may say, ‘The LORD has not appeared to you.’ ” And the LORD asked him, “What is that in your hand?” “A staff,” he replied. “Throw it on the ground,” said the LORD. So Moses threw it on the ground, and it became a snake, and he ran from it. “Stretch out your hand and grab it by the tail,” the LORD said to Moses, who reached out his hand and caught the snake, and it turned back into a staff in his hand. “This is so that they may believe that the LORD, the God of their fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has appeared to you.”
 
Romans 5:5 – “And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.” 
 
Romans 8:28 – “And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.”