Hope Talks
Have you ever hoped for something, but it didn’t happen? Did you hope for the wrong thing? Was God not faithful? What is hope? How does it work? And why does having hope matter so much to our well-being? Join Hope Talks each week to dive into everyday life topics and receive practical, biblical guidance to grow in your faith, hope, and love for the Lord, others, and yourself. With decades of experience in counseling, writing, training, and serving in ministry … Haley and Dustin will share with you what the Bible says about real life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit. So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything. Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
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It’s our one-year episode! Thank you, everyone, for listening and for your support!
In this special episode of Hope Talks, Haley and Dustin reflect on a full year of meaningful conversations – and dive into one of the most important ones yet: how to find rest in the Lord.
Psalm 116:7 says, “Return to your rest, my soul, for the LORD has been good to you.” Haley and Dustin unpack what it means to be out of rest and how unmet inner needs can disrupt our peace. They also offer practical, biblical ways to rest in the Lord—even in the midst of uncertainty and unsettling circumstances.
Listen now – this encouraging, insightful conversation will help you find peace in Christ.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more :(13:00) - Finding Peace Amid Struggles
(24:23) - Returning to Rest and Self-Reflection
(30:33) - Finding Peace Through Internal Reflection
(38:51) - Anchoring Rest in God's Goodness
(49:31) - Restoration Through Repentance and Rest
(58:05) - A Prayer for Restoration and Renewal
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Hope for the Heart resources
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
Psalm 23:1-3 – “The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. He restores my soul.”
Psalm 65:1, 5 -- “Truly my soul finds rest in God; my salvation comes from him... Yes, my soul, find rest in God; my hope comes from him.”
Psalm 116:7 -- “Return to your rest, my soul, for the Lord has been good to you.”
Matthew 11:28 -- “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.”
Mark 6:30-31 – “The apostles gathered around Jesus and reported to him all they had done and taught. Then, because so many people were coming and going that they did not even have a chance to eat, he said to them, “Come with me by yourselves to a quiet place and get some rest.” So they went away by themselves in a boat to a solitary place.”
Thursday May 29, 2025
Thursday May 29, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin sit down with Mark Matlock—author, ministry leader, and researcher with the Barna Group—for a thoughtful conversation about wisdom, spiritual formation, and reaching the next generation.
Mark shares insights from his book Faith for the Curious and how his research reveals that many people, especially younger generations, are more open to spiritual conversations than we might think. Together, they discuss how wisdom (especially from Proverbs) shapes our spiritual lives and why evangelism needs to shift from transactional encounters to relational engagement.
They also explore the ongoing mental health crisis and how it’s opening doors for evangelism and deeper discipleship.
Mark will also speak at our upcoming event on Mental Health and the Church and help lead the Urbana Mission Conference at the end of this year—see the links below to learn more.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more:
(04:30) - Reframing Hope Through Wisdom and Expectations
(11:19) - Discovering Godly Wisdom for Discipleship
(21:14) - Understanding Spiritual Curiosity and Connection
(34:18) - Engaging Nonbelievers With Authentic Connection
(48:38) - Embracing Rejection and Mental Health
(52:34) - Navigating Generational Divides and Mental Health
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Resources from Mark Matlock
Get Mark’s latest book, Faith for the Curious: https://tinyurl.com/52fsfapp
Learn more about the Urbana Missions Conference: https://www.urbana.org/
Hope for the Heart resources
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
Thursday May 22, 2025
Thursday May 22, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin are joined by Sheila Walsh, co-host of Praise and Better Together on TBN.
Sheila shares her inspiring story of how the Lord pursued her and gave her hope in the midst of severe depression while in ministry. Together, they discuss the power of God’s presence and grace, how the Lord meets us in our pain and brokenness, and gives us grace to break down the walls we build and be healed.
If you or a loved one struggle with a mental health issue, you do not want to miss this episode – it is such an encouraging, insightful, and genuine conversation that points to the compassion and grace of God.
Sheila is also speaking at our summer event on Mental Health and the Church - see link below for details.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more
(10:24) - Finding Hope Through Surrender and Faith
(22:22) - Friendship and Prayer
(33:05) - Embracing Vulnerability
(42:09) - Loving and Listening Through Pain
(53:06) - Leaning Into God Through Pain
(57:33) - Thankful Prayer and Support
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Resources from Sheila Walsh
Learn more about Sheila Walsh and her ministry at https://sheilawalsh.com/
Connect with Sheila on social media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sheilawalsh1/?hl=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sheilawalshconnects/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/sheilawalsh
Hope for the Heart resources
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Thursday May 15, 2025
Thursday May 15, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin talk with Jennie Allen, founder of IF: Gathering and New York Times bestselling author of Untangle Your Emotions, Get Out of Your Head, and the upcoming children’s book What to Do with Your Whirly, Swirly Thoughts.
For her hope story, Jennie shares why she’s more hopeful than ever about reaching the next generation with the gospel, including the powerful ministry she’s leading on college campuses. She also opens up about her personal journey related to mental and emotional health, why these themes are central to her writing, and what the Bible says about our mental and emotional well-being. Together, they explore the importance of naming and processing emotions, the freedom that comes with emotional honesty, and how parents can help their kids navigate difficult thoughts and emotions.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more
(06:55) - Saying Yes to God's Plans
(12:46) - Navigating Mental Health and Faith
(27:09) - Embracing Educated Hope and Emotional Awareness
(36:54) - Navigating Desperation With Jenny Allen
(44:06) - Educated Hope and Trust in God
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Resources from Jennie Allen
Learn more about Jennie Allen and her ministry at https://www.jennieallen.com/
Get a copy of Jennie’s book, Untangle Your Emotions: https://tinyurl.com/4hxjc9sy
Get a copy of Jennie’s new children’s book, What to Do with Your Whirly, Swirly Thoughts – https://tinyurl.com/43xdxvud
Hope for the Heart resources
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
Thursday May 08, 2025
Thursday May 08, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin sit down with Matt McCullough, pastor of Edgefield Church in Nashville and author of Remember Heaven (releasing May 2025).
Matt shares insights from his first book, Remember Death, and how reflecting on death can be a path to deepening our hope in Christ. He discusses why we don’t like thinking about death, but also why it’s vital for our spiritual growth and identity. Matt also shares insights on his upcoming book and how reflecting on heaven and the afterlife can benefit our lives today.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more :
(00:00) - Finding Hope in Everyday Life
(09:20) - Facing Death
(13:36) - The Impact of Remembering Death
(25:19) - The Weight of Death and Jesus
(37:17) - Discovering Hope in Eternal Life
(47:09) - Overcoming Anxiety
(55:05) - Renewing Hope Through Faith and Prayer
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Resources from Matt McCullough
Get a copy of Matt’s book, Remember Death: https://tinyurl.com/3kp25udc
Get a copy of Matt’s new book, Remember Heaven: https://tinyurl.com/2wtxyh6x
Hope for the Heart resources
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
Thursday May 01, 2025
Thursday May 01, 2025
Anxiety is everywhere these days, but so is God's grace.
In this episode, Haley and Dustin dive into the growing epidemic of anxiety and how it affects our minds, hearts, and faith. They explore the difference between anxiety, fear, stress, and worry, and unpack the common causes behind anxious thoughts. Most importantly, they share practical, biblical tools for managing anxiety—highlighting the powerful truth found in Philippians 4:8.
If you or someone you love is struggling with anxious thoughts, this episode offers clarity, comfort, and a Christ-centered path to peace.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more
(15:58) - Navigating Anxiety and Seeking God's Comfort
(23:03) - Finding Strength in Faith Amid Anxiety
(27:34) - Restoring Wellbeing Through Understanding Anxiety
(36:04) - Recognizing and Managing Symptoms of Anxiety
(45:26) - Balancing Listening and Speaking in Anxiety
(51:16) - Overcoming Anxiety Through Biblical Practices
(01:00:45) - Finding Hope and Peace Amid Anxiety
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Anxiety resources
Book on Anxiety: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/store/product/anxiety
Video course on Anxiety: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/store/product/anxiety-video-course
Free Resource, Caring for Your Mental Health: https://tinyurl.com/cyfze3k3
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Hope for the Heart resources
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
Psalm 23:1-3 – “The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. He restores my soul.”
Psalm 145:8 – “The LORD is gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in love.”
Ecclesiastes 3:7 – “A time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak”
Matthew 6:26 – “Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?”
Luke 12:6-7 -- “Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.”
Philippians 4:6-9 -- “Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.”
Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Thursday Apr 24, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin talk with Dove Award–winning songwriter and founder of Music for the Soul, Steve Siler.
Steve shares his hope story of how he and his wife processed the difficult news that their son would be born with spina bifida – and how God provided comfort, hope, and supportive friends. He also opens up about the healing power of music and how it can help people express pain, process emotions, and experience God’s comfort. Steve offers encouragement to ministry leaders on using music as a tool for care and shares resources that speak to anxiety, mental health, and real-life struggles with honesty and hope.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means
everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more
(08:59) - Finding Hope Through Faith and Community
(13:49) - Embracing a New Calling
(18:08) - Navigating Dark Topics in Ministry
(28:03) - Unlocking Healing Through Music
(38:16) - Healing Through Music and Therapy
(43:24) - Healing Through Songs of Hope
(56:58) - Sowing Hope Through Christian Podcast
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Steve Siler resources
Learn more about Steve Siler and Music for the Soul: www.musicforthesoul.org
Check out Steve Siler’s music and devotionals: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/store?search=music+for+the+soul
Listen to Steve Siler’s podcast, Music for the Soul:
On Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/music-for-the-soul-podcast/id1654054877
On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3Fnfkr2SutEJwVXXH2YCMm
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Hope for the Heart resources
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
Thursday Apr 17, 2025
Thursday Apr 17, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin reflect on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. They walk through some of the passages and events of Passion Week, discuss what Jesus’ death and resurrection mean for us practically, and share some biblical and historical pieces of evidence for the resurrection. It’s an encouraging conversation on the foundation of the Christian faith and the hope we have in Christ.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more :
(00:00) The Importance of the Resurrection
(04:34) The Significance of Daily Resurrection Celebrations
(08:25) Significance of Resurrection in Daily Life
(14:12) The Sacrifice and Reverence of Resurrection
(20:28) Everyday Work With Purpose
(26:58) Power of Resurrection in Everyday Lives
(42:20) Resurrection as Core Christian Belief
(47:41) Seeking Hope Through Christ's Resurrection
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Hope for the Heart resources
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
Matthew 27:23 – “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”
John 21:7-11 — “When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on his outer garment, for he was stripped for work, and threw himself into the sea. The other disciples came in the boat, dragging the net full of fish, for they were not far from the land but about a hundred yards off. When they got out on land, they saw a charcoal fire in place, fish laid out on it, and bread. Jesus told them, “Bring some of the fish you have just caught.” So Simon Peter went aboard and hauled the net ashore, full of large fish, 153 of them.”
1 Corinthians 15:58 -- “Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.”
1 Peter 1:8 – “Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy.”
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin sit down with Taya Kyle, the wife of the late Navy Seal Chris Kyle from the American Sniper story.
Taya shares her hope story of how the Lord helped her navigate her children’s grief, as well as her own, in the aftermath of Chris’ tragic death. She reflects on the lessons she learned about parenting, faith, and God’s grace in our grief. She also discusses her latest children’s book, Prayers for Bears, and the importance of gratitude. Taya also shares about the work she’s doing with military families through the Taya and Chris Kyle Foundation, the uniqueness of military family struggles, and how we can help.
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more :
(06:51) Intensifying Faith Amid Loss
(18:20) Prioritizing Loved Ones Over Work
(29:17) Healing and Grief After Loss
(38:21) Navigating Grief and Finding Hope
(43:13) Finding Faith Through Obedience
(46:25) Spontaneous Kenya Trip Saves Time
(51:56) Enhancing Service Marriages Through Coaching
(58:51) God's Nudging in Life
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Taya Kyle resources
Learn more about the Taya and Chris Kyle Foundation – Service Marriage Strong: https://www.tackf.org/
Learn more about Taya Kyle: https://tayakyle.com/
Get Taya’s children’s book, Prayers for Bears: https://tinyurl.com/49hj9myf
Connect with Taya on social media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tayakyle/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TayaKyleAmericanWife/
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Hope for the Heart resources :
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
Learn more about Hope Talks and catch up on past episodes: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/hopetalks/
Want to talk with June Hunt on Hope in the Night about a difficult life issue? Schedule a time here: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/talk-with-june-hope-in-the-night
God’s plan for you: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/gods-plan-for-you/
Give to the ministry of Hope for the Heart: https://raisedonors.com/hopefortheheart/givehope?sc=HTPDON
Learn about our summer event on Mental Health and the Church: https://resource.hopefortheheart.org/mental-health-and-the-church
Sign up for our fall Hope Together conference: https://hopetogether.com/
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
Matthew 5:4 – “Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.”
John 11:21-26, 32-35 -- “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died. But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die, and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?” … When Mary reached the place where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet and said, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.” When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled. “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. Jesus wept.”
James 4:6 – “But he gives us more grace.”
Thursday Apr 03, 2025
Thursday Apr 03, 2025
In this episode, Haley and Dustin sit down with Dana K. White, author of Jesus Doesn’t Care About Your Messy House and host of the popular podcast A Slob Comes Clean.
Dana shares her hope story of how the Lord helped her navigate an ongoing struggle with a messy house. They discuss the emotional impact that clutter and disorganization have on so many people and common misconceptions about cleaning and spirituality, such as “cleanliness is next to godliness.”
Dana provides helpful tips for managing clutter, but more so, she shares how Jesus gives us grace and sets us free from guilt, shame, and lies about “not having it all together.”
Subscribe to the podcast and tune in each week as Haley and Dustin share with you what the Bible says about real-life issues with compassion, warmth, and wit.
So you have every reason for hope, for every challenge in life. Because hope means everything.
Hope Talks is a podcast of the ministry of Hope for the Heart.
Listen in to learn more :
(00:00) Finding Hope in Messy Homes
(11:27) Shifting From Shame to Empowerment
(22:16) The Emotional Side of Clutter
(26:40) Reframing Clutter With Compassion
(39:53) Finding Freedom in Faith and Routines
(53:45) Starting Small
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Dana K. White resources
Learn more about Dana K. White: https://www.aslobcomesclean.com/
Get Dana’s new book, Jesus Doesn’t Care About Your Messy House: https://tinyurl.com/mxx94shw
Check out Dana’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DanaKWhite
Listen to Dana’s podcast, A Slob Comes Clean.
On Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-slob-comes-clean/id703720000
On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3gNL8WirdxSt9JaVwEL5EX
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Hope for the Heart Resources
Connect with Hope for the Heart on social!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopefortheheart
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hopefortheheart
Learn more about the ministry and resources of Hope for the Heart: https://www.hopefortheheart.org/
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Bible verses mentioned in this episode
Matthew 15:1-3 — “Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!” Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?”
1 Corinthians 14:23 – “For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people.”
2 Corinthians 4:7 – “But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.”
2 Corinthians 12:9 – “But he said to me, ‘My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.’ Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses so that Christ’s power may rest on me.”